We've got some more clamoring for the Brits, so let's try and answer it here. I'm not against doing the British, but it's not simple to do.
It's not just one set of British Infantry, first you have to do the center and elite companies, that's two types, then you have to do the stovepipe, cylindrical and Belgic shako variations to go with the 3 types, then there are some lacing differences if you want to get technical, and then marching, action and command boxes. Wow, how many boxes do you think is necessary?
Compare that to for example our Prussian Infantry, where the light, line and grenadier companies are just trim color variations or our Bavarian infantry where the light and grenadier companies can be made with just the (included) plumes on helmets and color differences.
To make the British, I think you'd need a bare minimum of 3 boxes, but then I don't think many people would be satisfied and would the bare minimum be any different from what's available in the market already?
What we've got left to do on the 1/32 plate are the Spanish and the 4 new sets of French. After that, would people rather see some cavalry or British?
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Lets have some cavalry.
Cavalry first please, then artillery.
cavalry
Extra heads and different back packs, including the epauletes?
But prefer the cavalry first.
Like to se Cavalry done {French} but im dying for British sets.
this might sound odd but i would buy more sets of british then anything else....just gotta love those sqaures.
Rob C,
Enough with the British, let us have some cavalry at last. I would prefer not to see any British at all, never, rather than to see needed sets as cavalry and artillery to be delayed.
I don't see what the problem is with making British Infantry,3 sets would make the basic units which everyone here seems to want, the most usable types. If you can do the Prussians in 3 sets and all the french and their Allies, I don't see what the problem is with British, they were involved in more than just Waterloo.
Would this work for everyone ;
Set # 1 - Marching Infantry , 6 poses.
2 with Flank Company wings and the rest centre company. Stovepipe shako and Belgic shako heads and the early pattern backpack. This gives a reasonable proportion of Flank to Centre company similar to the makeup of a Regiment.
Set # 2 - Infantry in Action, 6 poses.
a - Kneeling to Repel
b - Standing to Repel
c - Standing Firing
d - Standing Loading
e - Kneeling Firing
f - Advancing high port
Figures a-d Centre company, e-f Flank company.
With these poses it would be possible to build up a square with Front rank firing,Second rank firing,both ranks firing, OR ready to repel cavalry. With Stovepipe shako, Belgic shakos and late war back packs (swapable with those from set one to create either Waterloo or Peninsular War types)
Set # 3 - Commnand
a - Officer marching
b - Standard bearer marching
c - Sergeant marching
d - Officer standing/fighting
e - Standard bearer standing
f - Sergeant standing
The poses would have to be decided but with a couple of plug-on arms it should be practical to make poses useable for a marching group and a fighting in square group. Officers with bicornes and Belgic and Stovepipe shakos for the Sergeants.
All infantrymen would have standard, equal spaced, lacing but bot sharply defined so that a couple of goes with a piant brush would cover them up. My thinking here is that painted up they could represent Belgians, Portugese, plus some other units that used British equipment maybe Prussians and even U.S. Army for the War of 1812 would be feasible.
Cavalry will come but I think there are a few issues to work out to get them just right.
Dave M
Dave - stop it, you're encouraging the natives!
Let's just keep pushing for cavalry first :-)
Hi - please keep to cavalry - we can wait for the British Inf
Regards
9th
Cavalry please.
And after all, Waterloo is no more than one averige size battle, against a desperate men, defeated the year before in a very long campaign with mummerous battles. He was again facing the same armies comming from the east and with less chance of succes, hoping to win a truce, the tsar would never give.
Marc,
Sorry, got you a bit excited there.
Was just trying to make the point that British Infantry aren't as big a problem as collectors think and since there is nothing on the market suitable then a proper set would sell.
I would like the cavalry sets too and I'm sure they are working on them as we speak but it will take them longer, I would imagine, to work out the small problems of the different saddles and how to get the most use out of them. As they haven't done them before for this period.
Whereas they have a lot of experience in doing infantry and with the fact that the sets just coming out will have plug-in heads then this means that my above post is workable.
Apart from the terrible figures by ACTA which aren't suitable for making into groups of men, I can't think of any that are still easily available. I know you can still get the re-issue Airfix figures but only from specialist dealers and the Timpo action packs are now no longer available. Italeri have only made Riflemen and Dragoons. AIP only Artillery and Rifles. No one does 'bog standard' infantry.
Nevertheless HaT will have to make British at some point as they were involved in the Napoleonic Wars probably more than Wurtemburg jagers and they made them.
I personally have an interest in them as I need British for the Peninsular Campaign and it would save me converting. Also will need them to fight the Americans, which are a pretty eassy adaption from the same set.
Just think , how easy it would be for you to create a square, about 12 boxes of the action set and one box of command should work:)
Dave M
Cavalry, please.
Sscott
British first then cavalry for three reasons
None of the major companies ever made a complete 54mm British line figure range. Airfix, ESCI, TIMPO and ACTA only made elite British companies. Similarly, British command figures are few and far between - Airfix and ESCI made officers, but TIMPO made the only figure holding a semi-historical British flag. Barzo made British for their War of 1812 playset, but this was a limited run.
Secondly, if HAT made British like the projected Austrians with various heads, then HAT would only need to make 3 sets - command, marching and defending.
The third reason is that British figures are the most purchased of all wargaming figures. Gamers buy French to fight the British, fewer Russians, and even less Spanish and Austrians (even though the Austrians fought against Napoleon the most). Since HAT wants to make money, then British line will more likely make more profit then Bavarians, Austrians, and Russians combined. I will be the first to buy Polish troops, but historically British figures outsell everyone else.
Adrian
I am with the British here. They are just so Iconic of the era (british red line V french blue column)and our collective imagination. Business sense is there - no one else is making them boys and I would buy shed loads (wargaming) the 3 sets as laid out above by poster would be superb!!! I personally am not too humng up on the flank/centre thing for my personal needs. TBH i just need a figure which will be representational af the british infantry (stovepipe option nice tho).
I reckon you could push these out whilst working through your first set of your new artillery/cav boxes.
Yours
Alex
Cavalry 1st please.Holding out for Prussian and Russian.
It has been such a long push to get the cavalry in development that now is not the time to hesitate. It will be good to see armies with Horse, Foot and Artillery available.
Having one sculptor do all the Napoleonics does create a need to prioritize his time and, as I recall, he is also working on the 1806 greatcoat Russians for the 1/72 line.
Of course I would like to see the British get done eventually and would be content with two sets corresponding to the Marching Long Coat French with extra heads and packs. Please include a drummer in the command set.
British I have = Airfix, ESCI, TIMPO , CTA ,AiP,Barzo,Italeri and Vitrix Plus all brit Cavarly at waterloo.
No Austrian artillery
aye but not in the excellent style and size consistency offered by Hat :)Alex
British have been made but not regular infantry in 1/32 54mm size.
Airfix - Guards/Light Infantry 50-52mm
ESCI - 1/35th scale
TIMPO - Not accurate at all. 54-56mm
ACTA - Guards and Light Infantry with few useable poses and in-accurate equipment Scale varies between both sets. 54-56mm. British Cavalry in 1/35 scale or smaller.
AIP - Riflemen and Artillery about 55-56mm, taller if you include the chunky bases.
BARSZO - RESIN not Plastic, but Light Infantry in any case.
Italeri - Riflemen and Dragoons. 54-56mm
Vicrix - Are actually kits in hard plastic but they represent Light Infantry. Not 1/32 really 65mm tall.
So no manufacturer has made plastic 1/32 scale Regular British Infantry. Happy to be corrected if anyone knows different.
Agree the make up of the Command set is not right, so would change it to similar to the others- 2 X NCO's, 1 X Standard Bearer, 1 X Officer, 1 X Drummer, 1 X Mounted Officer.
I also would like to see the Cavalry being produced but I am realistic enough to know that they will not be done overnight, so just trying to be practical with options.
I am new to the Blog, as I have mentioned in a previous post, so I am not sure how long the old timers here have been asking for Cavalry. However based on the way HaT are producing sets of Infantry for the Napoleonic Wars with Spanish up next, then a natural progression would be the British as one of the nations involved in Spain.
So my vote is Cavalry first and British next.
DAve M
We should nmention the HELMET cavalry stuff...I have none so cant comment on its scale or quality
Alex
Alex - Helmet look good, but are more like specialised kits, and are priced accordingly, so not really viable in any quantity IMHO (YMMV).
And does everyone else have to push "post comment" through three stages to post here?
(have to post 1-2 times usually).I kniow what you mean re pricing for helmet. I would need 3-4 cav per unit with DBN rules - thats £15-20 per unit with Helemet...pricey but no different to unit of metal 28mm for equivalent footprint on the table.
I like Dave's idea for three sets of Napoleonic British. Even just center companies would fill a gap in the era; not to mention the versatility of troops in British style uniforms that has already been stated. I don't think you can lose with good sets of British Infantry.
I don't have problems with +/- 2 mm in 1/32 scale. That represent mans from 166 up 179 cm, and while the last aren't too common in that era, the first are more than common and, according with most sources, more correct than 172. Its a smaller mistake than using British to represente Belgians or Portuguese, as do AIP with several boxes representing many nations, and to me don't mean they are not usable and count them as acceptable light/elite. Helmet is too expensive and Vitrix have a sizing problem, but apart from that, are very interesting and like the hard plastic and multi-part. This means to me that several British uniforms are not a priority, as the cavalry.
The Helmet Cavalry are kits, each rider has a minimum of 7 pieces to glue together then you have to model on the straps,plumes,etc yourself using plastic card, pipecleaners and wool. The saddlery has a minimum of 2 pieces depending on what you are building, saddle cloths are made from pieces of colored felt.
So a bit of modelling skill is required and it certainly isn't as simple as buying a couple of boxes to make up a unit. Then there is the price which is higher than a soft plastic figure.
I have changed my mind from my previous post and will go for British Infantry first and then Cavalry ,for this reason.
I checked out the HaT website today to note what is already available to represent the major and minor powers of the Napoleonic War -
French - 6 sets with 4 more to come.
10 sets in total
Wurtemburg - 5 sets
Bavaria - 3 sets
Prussian - 2 sets with 4 to come.
6 sets in Total
Russians - 3 sets to come
Austrians - 3 sets to come (minimum)
Spanish - 3 sets (possibly)
So for me the missing ONE country to complete the major powers is the British. If they did them next ,then it would give them free run to do Cavalry sets for all the nations one after the other.
With the rise in interest in 54mm wargaming the new person will need figures for all the major powers, Infantry, Cavalry and Artillery. So why shouldn't he be able to buy them all from the same source ,in the same scale, at the same time. From the research I have done it would appear that they start with Infantry, the bulk of the Army, then move onto cavalry and finally Artillery. I believe HaT should do the same. If you ask a collector/wargamer that is NOT interested in the Napoloenic period, 'what do you think I would need to start', they would say French, British and Prussian, their thinking being that you will be doing Waterloo. Of course I can only speak for English Speaking collectors, German collectors may want Wurtemburg and bavarian instead and French speakers something else, but I think you get what I am talking about.
I believe that HaT must cater for the novice and expert with their figure ranges to get the maximum amount of revenue. The more money they can make the more sets they can produce,so they need as many customers to buy the product ranges.
I like Marc, Adrian and Alex would buy quite a few sets.
Best Regards,
Les
I'm with Les - good logic there. Don't worry about what others have done. Most other figure makers don't who intend to do a full range. If HaT has it all then buyers (especially new collectors)will go with HaT.
Damn if only I had experience with sculpting I'd help you out!!!
The post that ends Les is from me, I was looking at some french uniform books and got myself distracted with the language. My French isn't that good.
What does 'Les Grognards' mean referring to the French OLD Guard ?
Dave M
The only British i use are Airfix & ACTA so very week on british right now :(
3 sets would be great
command set with 2 flagbearers is a must
action set for building a square
for the 3rd would rather just standing at attention then marching just a thought.
Rob C.
Rob C,
If a command set is of the standard design now you get three flagbearers in a box.
We all have our favourites, but I think the way that HaT does the 3 box sets Marching guys are pretty popular.
Unlike you I don't like the standing at attention pose ,especially in an action set,wasted pose for me. Was getting excited about the 7YW Prussians until I noted that there will be two standing at attention guys in the action box , so only leaving 4 useable poses , well three really as the loading guy is too static for me, so probably not get them.
Dave M
I quite like a mix of more static support poses to rear of a unit and action to the front. A unit for me is 4x2 figs or just 4 cav.
Dave (or Les)
Grognards - I think was a reference to "grumblers", where they were reputed to moan about being kept in reserve a lot.
As to the action poses, I sound like a sock puppet, but I would suggest that the more we buy, the more we encourage HaT to make sets. I know that 3 out of 6 poses is not great for you, but it is better than none I would hazard. So if we boycott sets like that, then HaT may well decide not to release any such "action sets" in the future. I am paying around £9 (UK) for a set, so even if I only got 9 useable figures, then that is still £1 each, which is better value than most metal 28mm figures, so I will not fuss too much. I prefer the marching sets, and use the action figures for skirmish bases, so I will probably end up not using most of my boxes anyway. What a great hobby.
Mind you, with my Italeri french dragoons, I have a surfeit of trumpeters to store, as I do not want 1 in 4 to be tootling, and I use 12 man cavalry regiments, so I have to buy at least two boxes to get enough troopers.
Marc,
Thanks for that so 'Les Grognards' translates to 'The Grumblers', seems reasonable as a lot of the illustrations I've seen showing them , they never look too happy:)
As has been said before, every ones opinion is valid. For me 9 useable poses out of a box of 18 ,is not better than none, as I already have none. So just won't get into the period, although I may reserve judgement until I see the Austrians. I don't buy figures just to support a company, I check out the figures before I buy and if they are too small, too big or not in human proportions, my money stays in my wallet. Might buy a set of figures if I can salvage enough heads from them but then the type of plastic becomes an issue for cutting them off, soft is good and hard(like Italeri which is too hard) not so good. I was looking forward to the Victrix ones coming along but luckily I managed to check out a set in a hobby store and was horrified to see that they are HUGE! and don't have the same extras as the 28mm versions(no spare heads or arms)so saved some money there.
However I do undertand that everyone is different and has an opinion, this is just mine. Supporting a company just because they make plastic figures ,makes no sense for me, as if they don't make what you 'actually' want then just by buying their sets gives them the impression that they have got it right, even when they haven't. This is what is good about this Blog, HaT can look at the comments here and decide which way to go to satisfy the majority of them.
As far as your Italeri Dragoons are concerned, why don't you just convert the buglers into troopers, the uniform is the same and re-arming them shouldn't be a problem. I'm waiting for some company to produce a set of Mounted and Dismounted Dragoons in the same box, like Perry have done in 28mm plastic, so as this is unlikely to happen, I am making my own. The makers of 'Green Stuff' really like me, or at least they should they have plenty of my money:)
Dave M
Dismounted Dragoons...yes that would be special!
When HAT makes the British Napoleonic command set, I would like to see a foot officer, a mounted officer, a sgt with a pike, 2 standard bearers (one to carry the regimental colour and one for the King's colour) and a drummer.
Adrian
I hear you Dave, but my point was that 3 of the poses sounded like they worked for you, but the cost per figure would be twice as high as a fully useful box.
Italeri trumpeters - agreed, but the face is a full on blown cheeks pose, so I may turn them into standard bearers but will probably just hold the spares to go with cuirsassiers when they arrive :-)
And foot dragoons - would they not be the same as ordinary troopers with helmets, so could they be converted from those Italeri trumpeters? Or were you hoping/looking for guys in riding boots? I gather they were uncomfortable to walk in. Not really my thing, so do not know how much of their cavalry tack they lost and replaced with infantry style kit - my old Minifgs had normal infantry equipment.
Interesting to hera the Victrix comments. I assume they are going for the Conte market, but luckily for me Conte don't do Napoleonics, so I can skip those.
Marc,
Yes, with the 7YW Prussians three of the poses work for me, but the other three aren't even useful to convert except for the heads, changing their arms still gets a rigid standing pose, really would have thought the pose should have been in the command set.
I understand what you say about the Dragoon Trumpeter I had forgotten he is blowing, maybe you could just flatten out his cheeks with scalpel cut.
Foot Dragoons, NO, Dismounted Dragoons YES!
Subtle difference here but crucial. Foot Dragoons are Dragoons that did not have horses during the various campaigns in Russia and the east and were given Infantry equipment but retained their helmets and their swords. Dismounted Dragoons are Dragoons that have just stepped off their horse to fight on foot, so still wearing their Boots and swords and armed with musket/musketoon. Dragoons were trained to fight on and off their horse, so really like mounted infantry. I think that is why people got excited about the Perry Dragoons, in a'Sharp Practice' game they can be used as Cavalry or Infantry, even Vicrix will be doing them, but in the earlier uniform and a better ratio of mounted to dismounted poses.
With Victrix I think they just got it wrong with the pantograph sizing, although all 28mm manufacturers get the sizing wrong anyway, so they didn't think it through. For some unknown and illogical reason wargames figures are measured to the eyes from the ground, why? Normal measurements in real live are taken to the top of the head, so a 28mm figure is actually 31mm tall, so you double size him and you have 62mm which is nearer to 1/30 scale. They advertise these as 1/32 54mm size but actually this is probably something that could get them in trouble with the advertsing standards agency. Victrix do not appear to know what market they are aiming for with the bigger figures, but they are bringing out the French so at least someone to fight if you do want to use them, the 'wargamey' look of them doesn't even fit in with Conte.
You made a comment in a previous post that I don't understand;
'I prefer the marching sets, and use the action figures for skirmish bases, so I will probably end up not using most of my boxes anyway.'
What are you not using out of a 3 set range, Marching, action and Command ?
Dave M
The size bloat of Victrix is very regretable: great opportunity to contribute to the 1:32 scale hooby - blown away with crazy tooling.
Anyway leaves the market with less competition for HaT but also heightens the need for regulat Brit infantry.
Alex Draper
Alex,
I don't really think HaT have any competition as such in 1/32, certainly not in the U.K. maybe with AIP in the USA (just by size not detail). All the other New companies have gone the 60mm route ,so they can compete with themselves, and leave us to hope that HaT expands to other periods to corner the market.
Dave M
Dave, sorry, what I meant was:
I use the marching sets to make my main units (4 bases of 8 figures)
I use the command sets within those units
The "action" poses - I will use some as units, but most will end up on loose skirmish bases - Lasalle does not actually need skirmishers to be represented, as units have "skirmish points", but I like the look, and it makes it easy to see what unit has what skirmish value. So some of teh action poses wil get used, but probably not the entire box (or boxes).
Dismounted dragoons - my faves at the moment are the new russian GNW (1/72) from Zevezda - they have boots. Not much in way of poses, but enough for me (and with horse holders - result!).
Regards
Marc,
Got it, understand how it works now.:)
I'm building my dismounted Dragoons out of AIP AWI and French infantry(without backpacks) with converted heads and standing CTS Horses. Will manage to do a fighting Trumpeter(prefer them) and 2 horse holders. Looking at 10 Troopers , trumpeter and Officer. I've been reading the 'Richard Howard' books following the exploits of a group of French Dragoons, some workable scenarios for skirmish wargames.
Actually thats just given me an idea for using the the attention pose bodies from the New 7YW Prussian set with new arms as horseholders :)
Best Regards,
Dave M
I want to see pics of your stuff!
Alex Draper
@All,
Sizing - every scale has their own idiosyncrasies. 1/72 figures are best at 23.5-24.mm from the bottom of the feet to the top of the head. 1/32 scale is about 54mm. We asked around before making our 28mm figures and the most common answer was 28mm from foot to eye level. For 28mm comparisons, take a look at Scott MacPhee's blog where he compares HaT to metal figs. The problem with Victrix for myself personally is not just the size but the thickness of the figures, they upscaled their 28mm plastic figures with the same chunky bodies that don't work well with classic 54mm figs.
Standing pose - Going back to the regular HaT forum we asked what extra figures to put in and I think the most common answer was the standing figure. There were a lot of figures standing around on the battlefield.
if you dont do british why do anything
you could do some farm animals
The Barrett measuring system came from the figure review section of the old Courier historical wargaming magazine. Barrett did most of the reviews and had to deal with 15mm and 25mm figures from many manufacturers and periods. Finding the top of the head was not always possible so the Courier settled on the ground-to-eye system. The Courier was the dominant historical wargaming magazine in its day so the system spread. Since the top of the figure did not count it opened the door to scale creep and contributed to transforming 25mm into 28mm.
If you are comparing the same type of soldier, say AWI British center company men, from different manufacturers, I don't think the Barrett system is needed.
Given their choice of units and individualized poses could it be that Victrix has decided that the 54mm market is a skirmish wargaming market?
I found a copy of Mr. Barrett's own explanation of his system:
To my consternation, and after all the "good" things in life I've done, i.e. teaching, army, HMGS, modeling world, the thing that will probably be etched on my tombstone is "creator of the BMS figure measuring system". Simply stated, the BMS measures a figure (15mm, 20, 25, etc.) from the bottom of the foot to the eyes. The stand itself is omitted in the measurement, however, an over thick stand should be noted in any review. The eye level was chosen simply because it was impossible to establish the top of the head of figures due to the fact that so many different caps, helmets, and headdresses were being wore thus obscuring the top of the head. This measurement (in millimeters) can best be derived by choosing a figure standing reasonably tall and straight versus bending over. Anyone, anywhere can do this and report it in their reviews. A second - and more abstract - value is assigned to the figures heft; light - L, medium - M, or heavy - H, and only describes how thin or chunky the figure appears. (These codes basically match what is used today in describing a man's build, light, medium or heavy.) Thus, a 26H rating means the figure is 26 millimeters in height from bottom of the foot to the level of the eyeballs, and is relatively a thick casting when compared to most figures....... 19L means 19 millimeters and a light or thin casting.....and so on. You can tell the heftiness rating is more arbitrarily derived. The system was started when, out of shear frustration with figure manufacturers, I realized I had accumulated an odd collection of different manufacturers figures that were absolutely of no value to me because they did not fit in well with my pre-existing armies from being too tall, too short, or too fat eventhough I had purchased all these samples from ads reporting them to be 15mm, or 25mm and so on.
My intent was to establish a way for reviewers of miniature figures to report a measurement of the figures being reviewed so I could tell (and other wargamers as well) whether or not the figures in question would fit with all my other figures before I purchased them. It was a way to report on those manufacturers fudging on their scales and was not meant to be any sort of standard for manufacturers to meet as some have thought.
Toby Barrett
Cavalry first. Brit center company after.
Scott M.
Rahway,
Thanks for that explanation of how to measure a wargame figure, very interesting.
However I was considering that Victrix were trying to get into the 54mm market. No doubt with a view to Skirmish Wargaming, and by sizing their figures in a wargame way missed the point that Toy Soldiers are NOT wargame figures and that 54mm means to the top of the head without headgear.
Also the chunky style would not be popular with the Military Modeller who prefers actual human proportions and the opportunity to create a realistic looking figure.
So not sure Victrix really know what market they were aiming for, but at least if you did buy them for Skirmish gaming the French are coming out soon so might not be a problem for some.
I am a Plastic Toy Soldier collector/modeller that occassionally uses his Toy Soldiers for skirmish type wargames. So don't know much about the different wargames figure manufacturers except for the ones that recently started making plastic sets with the ability to change the poses. I Bought them out of curiousity really, to see how they were designed, I quite enjoy assembling them and doing some converting and the fact that they are more human in proportion is a plus point.
If someone did this type of figure in 54mm ,I would buy loads of them with no problen, even in hard plastic(although prefer soft for easier cutting).
Dave M
@Rahway, is Barrett still alive and if not, is that etched on his tombstone? That is a good method as it is often difficult to measure the height due to headgear. I would add one more point, the height needs to be measured on a figure standing as much upright as possible.
I do not know Mr. Barrett's current status. Please note that since Mr. Barrett was not concerned with 54mm and 1/32 figures when he created the system.
Why have French and no enemy?
@Enemies = Russians, Prussians, Bavarians, Prussian Landwehr, Austrians, Wurttembergers, Brunswickers, Spanish.
Hatblogger,
You are correct the French sets have enemy sets.
However could I just correct you on one point,if I may, the Bavarians and Wurtembergers were allied to the French. It still means they have plenty of guys to fight though:)
Any more thoughts on making Peninsular War British, I think there appears to be some interest here and on the forum.
Providing we can get a concensus on the poses :)
Dave M
Yes: both Wurttemberg and Bavaria were allies of the French up to a point. However the Bavarians crossed over to join the allies just prior to Leipzig in 1813 and the Wurtemburgers, following the disbanding of the Confederation of the Rhine after Leipzig, also moved across to the allies. Both Bavaria and Wurttemberg subsequently participated in the invasion of France the following year. Thus they may be both be correctly referred to as enemies and/or allies of France.
For mine the versatility of such troop types supports the HAT approach. In terms of the original question I'd prefer some cavalry before the British. I already have many hundreds of British accumulated over the years and I feel there as still some more significant gaps to be addressed: Russian, Austrian and Prussian cavalry for example.
thanks
Neil A
Neil A,
Thanks for that, as I said previously I am new to Napoleonics especially the eastern battles. So did the uniforms for Bavaria and Wurtemberg change between being in French service and Allied service?
Where did you get your 1/32 scale regular British Infantry, I've only ever been able to find Flank company types and only one set suitable for the Peninsuler war?
Hat is already making Russians, Prussians and Austrians, so what major countries infantry is missing?
I don't think we need to wory about Hat producing Cavalry, it will just take time for them to work out the best way to do it.
Regards,
Dave M
@All, all of them were allied to the French at one point :-)
The Prussians and other Germans invaded Russia. The Austrian Emperor married his daughter to Napoleon. The Spanish were allies too, but eventually all turned against him.
The Bavarian and Wurttemberg figures wear late uniforms and so should be useful both as allies and enemies, frienemies you could say.
Got it now, I'll need to do more reading on this Period.
I know the British were in Spain, so if we could see them sometime soon that would be good, Hint! Hint! :)
Dave M
P.S. Trying the shotgun approach here spreading the requset across a few threads :)
I'd like to add one more voice to those asking for HäT to make a set of 1/32 British infantry.
It's been wonderful seeing the company produce Brunswick, French, Wurttemberg, Bavarian, Prussian and Russian troops, and I'm particularly looking forward to the Austrians.
But it's true that there is no adequate set of 1/32 British infantry. The Airfix set is dated and hard to get hold of. The Esci set mixes Highlanders and regular infantry and is even harder to get hold of. A Call To Arms produces two nicely sculpted sets, but both contain only four poses. Italeri's 95th Rifles represent one special regiment.
No other manufacturer seems likely to address this gap in the market. Italeri has only made four 1/32 Napoleonic infantry sets and the sculpting on the recent sets hasn't been good. I'm not sure when A Call To Arms last produced a new set.
Surely if it makes sense to produce Wurttemburg Grenadiers, Musketeers and Jaeger, a set of British infantry would be a profitable enterprise?
HäT has even produced exactly what people are asking for, in 1/72: #8186 Peninsular War British Infantry. That set contains a well-balanced set of poses, a choice between stovepipe and Belgic shakos, and a mix of light and battalion (centre) company troops.
I'd love to see you scale them up.
"I don't know what effect these men will have upon the enemy, but, by God, they frighten me." Wellington.
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